The Committee is considering ideas concerning KBCP, secondary pick-ups, and start times, in light of changing Club needs. The Committee needs input from the members and this survey is considered one formal way of getting constructive feedback. Please take a few minutes to consider.

• central location, easily identifiable, good for new people
• historical, nostalgic, consistent meeting place
• some weather protection afforded by overhead (leaky) bridge
• new riders have time to learn group riding skills in smaller group at lower speeds
• fulfils criteria of no thinking required — "just arrive with a full tank" as per itinerary

• blocked by running events once or twice a year
• bleak, no toilets, no food, little shelter
• not the "real" start of the ride — city congestion, traffic lights, a waste of time
• kiosk attendants occasionally grumpy - it is private property
• the effect of City Link tolls has yet to be determined

If we don’t feel KBCP is an appropriate meeting place, but think a centrally located site is desirable, then alternative sites for central pick-up departure point need evaluating. Issues such as ease of access to the freeways and ring roads, geographical location, available parking, site amenities, weather protection, and comfort can be considered. For instance, meeting at such a venue as McDonalds (say the one on Victoria St just up from Hoddle Street) could promote a social aspect, making breakfasts a possibility. Similarly the RTA at the top end of Lygon Street is a well known central location and has fast access to the Eastern Freeway (and hence Yarra Glen). Conditions are similar to KBCP. Hoddle Street links the Eastern and South Eastern Freeways so a service station on it could meet most of our requirements.

• Yarra Glen, corner of Bell and King Streets, Yarra Glen, Melways Map 274K2
• Hallam: Liberty Service Station, Princes Highway Hallam, Melways Map 96G1
• Whittlesea: Mobil Service Station, Plenty Road Whittlesea, Melways Map 246F9
• Laverton: Shell Service Station, Geelong Road Laverton, Melways Map 53B11

This information will now be on every itinerary.

• could leave earlier since not waiting for city contingent — save time — and hence possibility of finishing rides earlier
• vast majority of riders, particularly members, head for pick-ups directly anyway
• leaders often find it onerous to lead city contingent

• new riders may be unclear of where exactly to go (fixed — locations now printed on itinerary and web)
• new riders miss out on learning corner marking system and riding-in-a-group skills

Please take a few minutes to complete the following Kings Bridge Car Park Survey.

Should we have a central pick-up point for riders departing fromthe city? yes/no

If yes, should it be KBCP? yes/no

the RTA car park, top end of Lygon St,

McDonalds, corner City Road and Claredon Street,

If no, should we leave the secondary pick-ups earlier? yes/no

Thankyou for your time and cooperation.

Ben Warden, for the Committee.